# Episode 36 - The 3 Things Every MSP Needs to Grow (w/Guest: Tim Conkle) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-msp-sales-podcast-7028645/episode-36-the-3-things-every-msp-needs-to-grow-w-guest-tim-conkle Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-msp-sales-podcast-7028645/episode-36-the-3-things-every-msp-needs-to-grow-w-guest-tim-conkle.md Podcast: [The MSP Sales Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-msp-sales-podcast-7028645) Published: 2026-03-16T13:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://mspsalespodcast.podbean.com/e/episode-36-the-3-things-every-msp-needs-to-grow/ Audio file: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/xci6zzmbr7yh6jxk/Episode_36_-_Tim_Conkle7uqap.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-msp-sales-podcast-7028645/episodes/episode-36-the-3-things-every-msp-needs-to-grow-w-guest-tim-conkle Duration seconds: 4657 ## Resource Most MSPs don’t fail because of technology. They stall because the fundamentals of growth aren’t in place. In Episode 36 of The MSP Sales Podcast, Brian Gillette is joined by Tim Conkle to break down the three foundational elements every MSP needs if they want to scale beyond survival mode. This conversation dives into what separates MSPs that plateau from those that build real momentum - and why many owners focus on tactics before these core pieces are actually in place. In this episode, you’ll hear: → The 3 foundational ingredients every growing MSP needs → Why leadership maturity determines the ceiling of your business → Why sales and marketing discipline matters more than tools If your MSP feels stuck, overwhelmed, or inconsistent in growth, this episode explains what needs to change first. _____________________________________________________ Learn all about Feel-Good MSP and our end-to-end MSP sales training, growth and development program at: www.FeelGoodMSP.comBrian's book "How To Sell a Sh*tload of Managed Services (without selling your soul)", has just been released in audiobook format!It’s your roadmap to build repeatable growth, higher margins, and stronger client relationships without compromising values.Get it now at Amazon.com https://a.co/d/hJKoFxg. .#MSP #MSPSales #ManagedServices #ManagedServiceProvider #TechSales #MSPCommunity #ITServices #ManagedIT #CloudServices #ITConsulting #MSPSalesTraining #SalesProcess #BusinessStrategy #BusinessGrowth #MSPMarketing #SalesTraining #LeadGen ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-msp-sales-podcast-7028645/episodes/episode-36-the-3-things-every-msp-needs-to-grow-w-guest-tim-conkle/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-msp-sales-podcast-7028645/episode-36-the-3-things-every-msp-needs-to-grow-w-guest-tim-conkle.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.