# Episode 242 | Simon Freeman and Mario Fraioli on The Importance of Making Time for Quiet, Creating Space, and Slowing Down Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-morning-shakeout-podcast-1128684/episode-242-simon-freeman-and-mario-fraioli-on-the-importance-of-making-time-for-quiet-creating-space-and-slowing-down Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-morning-shakeout-podcast-1128684/episode-242-simon-freeman-and-mario-fraioli-on-the-importance-of-making-time-for-quiet-creating-space-and-slowing-down.md Podcast: [the morning shakeout podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-morning-shakeout-podcast-1128684) Published: 2025-02-28T03:10:54+00:00 Episode link: https://themorningshakeout.com/podcast-simon-freeman-and-mario-fraioli-2/ Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/61bb951645cc6900145d924a/e/67c1293ecabc05e91c823a99/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-morning-shakeout-podcast-1128684/episodes/episode-242-simon-freeman-and-mario-fraioli-on-the-importance-of-making-time-for-quiet-creating-space-and-slowing-down Duration seconds: 4149 ## Resource I recently sat down with my good friend and  frequent podcast guest Simon Freeman , the co-founder, editor, and publisher of my favorite running magazine,  Like The Wind , for our first quarterly conversation of 2025, which you can listen to wherever you get  the morning shakeout  podcast. An excerpt of this exchange can be found in Issue #44 of  LtW , which comes out this week. (You can buy a copy or subscribe  here .) In this episode we discuss the importance of making time for quiet, creating space for ourselves, and slowing down in both running and in life. This episode is brought to you by: — Tracksmith, New Balance, Precision Fuel & Hydration, and Final Surge. All of these brands have missions I believe in and products that I trust and use myself on a regular basis. One of the best ways to support the morning shakeout is by patronizing the partners that help keep them going week in and week out. Check out this page some of the discount codes and special offers available exclusively to readers and listeners of the morning shakeout. Click here for complete show notes and sign up here to get the morning shakeout email newsletter delivered to your inbox every Tuesday. Music and editing for this episode of the morning shakeout podcast by John Summerford . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-morning-shakeout-podcast-1128684/episodes/episode-242-simon-freeman-and-mario-fraioli-on-the-importance-of-making-time-for-quiet-creating-space-and-slowing-down/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-morning-shakeout-podcast-1128684/episode-242-simon-freeman-and-mario-fraioli-on-the-importance-of-making-time-for-quiet-creating-space-and-slowing-down.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.