# Em Rusciano on Madonna, musicals and finally choosing herself

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Podcast: [The Moment with Myf Warhurst](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-moment-with-myf-warhurst-7478516)
Published: 2026-07-14T08:00:30+00:00
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## Resource

There's a particular kind of unravelling happening to women in their forties and fifties right now, and Em Rusciano has made it her whole body of work. She joins Myf to talk about the morning she woke up and realised she'd built her entire personality around being chosen by someone else, and what she did next. And the biggest moment for them both in music: why Madonna's new record has an entire generation of women weeping on dance floors, the unexpected gift of losing your oestrogen, what men's dating profiles reveal about how badly we've let them down, and why the best albums of the year are all being made by women over 40 who have finally stopped trying to fit in. Guest: Em Rusciano @emrusciano Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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