# Episode 277: The Big Relief of a Good Dishwasher

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Podcast: [The Mockingcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-mockingcast-1118135)
Published: 2025-04-28T10:45:00+00:00
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&lt;p&gt;In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk Pope Francis, dirty dishes, eternal life, and Dave's new book, The Big Relief. Also, RJ bleeds in the pulpit while Sarah takes us to the alley. &lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj5z4SbrH20&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to listen to (and watch) Gregory Porter sing &quot;Take Me to the Alley&quot;.&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2025/04/how-to-load-dishwasher/682425/&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to read Ellen Cushing's &quot;There Are Two Types of Dishwasher People&quot; in the Atlantic.&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://oliverbatemandoesthework.substack.com/p/the-work-of-small-talk&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to read &quot;The Work of Small Talk&quot; from the Oliver Bateman Does the Work substack.&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://amzn.to/44doDBg&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to order Dave's book, The Big Relief: The Urgency of Grace for a Worn-Out World. &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/give-and-take/id1054531804?i=1000703777631&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to listen to the interview that RJ mentions (Dave on Give + Take with Scott Jones). Or &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FajbkMAVWiU&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&gt;here to watch&lt;/a&gt; it. &lt;/li&gt; &lt;li&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://mbird.com/holidays/easter/eternal-life-is-not-embarrassing/&quot; rel=&quot;noopener noreferrer nofollow&quot;&…

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