# The Skills That Will Matter Most in the AI Era | Chris Shipley & Scott Barry Kaufman

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Podcast: [The Midlife Chrysalis](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-midlife-chrysalis-7361713)
Published: 2026-07-06T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

AI is changing the way we work, but the skills that matter most are still deeply human. In this episode of The Midlife Chrysalis, Chip Conley is joined by Chris Shipley , technology visionary and leadership expert, and Scott Barry Kaufman, psychologist and bestselling author, for a thoughtful conversation about leadership, purpose, and human potential in the age of AI. Together, they explore why the future belongs to leaders who combine technology with wisdom, curiosity, and genuine human connection. In this episode, you'll discover: Why human skills will become even more valuable as AI evolves How leaders can reduce fear and build trust during times of change Why wisdom may be your greatest advantage in the future How different generations can learn from each other Why having a clear vision for your future self can change your life Whether you're leading a team, planning your next career move, or simply wondering what the future of work will look like, this conversation offers practical ideas and a hopeful perspective. Watch now and discover why the future belongs to leaders who never stop growing. Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (00:42) Introducing Chris Shipley & Scott Barry Kaufman (02:07) Leading For Tomorrow (05:53) The Future Of Human-Centered Leadership (07:11) What Would Maslow Think About AI? (08:56) Leading Through AI Uncertainty (11:24) Easing AI Anxiety At Work (14:13) What Makes People Feel They Matter (16:50) Best Lessons From The Book (22:39) Midlife In Silicon Valley (26:52) Becoming An Integrator In Midlife (28:33) Bridging The Generational Gap (35:10) Wisdom For Your Younger Self (39:27) Three Key Takeaways Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ #AILeadership #HumanLeadership #FutureOfLeadership #FutureOfWork #LeadershipSkills #HumanPotent…

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