# #43 — Max Shen | How Trapped Emotions Create Physical Pain

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Podcast: [The Metagame](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-metagame-5326696)
Published: 2026-01-07T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://themetagame.substack.com/p/43-max-shen-this-book-heals-chronic
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## Resource

Max Shen is a pain researcher with a background in computational cognitive science and degrees from MIT. After developing severe RSI in grad school, he devoted himself to understanding pain from the inside out. Remarkably, his pain was cut in half just from reading Dr. John Sarno's Healing Back Pain . Max’s work blends active inference, non-dual teaching, and Pain Reprocessing Therapy to create practical, self-guided tools for lasting pain relief. He’s also the creator of DebugYourPain.org. Resources: * Max Shen’s Substack (Debug Your Pain) ' * To find out about Max’s coaching, see here This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit themetagame.substack.com

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