# Michelle Obama Upstages Barack, Euros Love America, and 2028 Rumblings, with Rich Lowry and Charles C.W. Cooke  |  Ep. 1341

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Podcast: [The Megyn Kelly Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-megyn-kelly-show-1317670)
Published: 2026-06-17T19:02:57+00:00
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## Resource

Megyn Kelly is joined by Rich Lowry, editor-in-chief of National Review, and Charles C.W. Cooke, senior writer of National Review, to discuss what's behind President Trump's interest in a deal with Iran, the reaction to what we're learning about the deal so far, the Trump administration's need to focus on the economy ahead of the midterms, divisions within the Republican party over the Iran conflict and foreign policy, what the fractures could mean for the GOP primary in 2028, the new Obama Library portrait of Barack and Michelle Obama with Michelle front and center, why it always seems Michelle resents Barack, the ridiculous backlash to the UFC event at the White House, a Resistance historian claiming it's actually about racism, Sheryl Crow's absurd comments, Europeans visiting America for the first time for the World Cup and loving it, viral praise for the little luxuries of America and how friendly everyone is that many Americans take for granted, MLB players getting backlash for writing bible verses on their Pride Month hats, Emily Ratajkowski’s vile comments in a recent "The Cut" feature about being a slutty mom after her divorce, and more. Lowry- https://www.nationalreview.comCooke- https://x.com/charlescwcooke Supersure Insurance: Upgrade your business insurance to a year-round SuperAgency at https://Supersure.com/MegynRelief Factor: Reclaim your mobility and celebrate your freedom from aches this year by grabbing your $17.76 3-week QuickStart at https://ReliefFactor.com or by calling 800-4-RELIEF.Sundays for Dogs: Upgrade your dog’s food without the hassle—try Sundays for Dogs and get 50% off your first order at https://sundaysfordogs.com/MEGYN or use code MEGYN at checkout.SimpliSafe: Visit https://simplisafe.com/MEGYN to claim 50% off any new system!

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