# Believe It or Not Ep. 1: Will AI replace most white collar jobs?

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Podcast: [The Media Leader Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-media-leader-podcast-5773787)
Published: 2026-04-16T04:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In a new mini-series, former  Media Leader  editor-in-chief Omar Oakes is joined by former Dentsu International CEO, now AI strategist Hamish Nicklin to argue over the nuances of AI development and its use in the creative industries. In the first episode, the duo debate for and against the prompt: "AI will replace most white collar jobs, and faster than anyone thinks." Taking the "for" side of the argument is Nicklin, while Oakes represents the "against" side, posing sceptical questions. The topic comes as ex-Twitter founder, now Block CEO Jack Dorsey recently stated: "The core thesis is simple: intelligence tools have changed what it means to build and run a company. We're already seeing it internally. A significantly smaller team, using the tools we're building, can do more and do it better, and intelligence tool capabilities are compounding faster every week." He added: "Within the next year, I believe the majority of companies will reach the same conclusion and make similar structural changes." Likely? Or just hype? Highlights: 1:13: Recent developments in AI use: Gaming, data centre scaling, the Grammarly scandal 5:30: Jack Dorsey claims AI will replace entry-level white collar work. Nicklin shares why he might be right. 18:46: The 'coordination tax': Is AI replacing unproductive work, or valuable process? 31:33: The pipeline problem: How does junior talent turn into senior talent? 36:44: Agency business models need to change 38:37: Is AI a cover story for cutting head count? 40:57: Verdicts

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