# 77: How to Sell Without Feeling Salesy: The Steve Jobs Strategy for Designers + Creatives

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Podcast: [The McClain Method | Business Tools For Interior Designers](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-mcclain-method-business-tools-for-interior-designers-6446179)
Published: 2025-07-18T20:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

What do interior designers, creatives, and wellness founders have in common? Most of them hate selling—but still need to do it daily. In this episode, John sits down with Christopher Francis, engineer-turned-entrepreneur and founder of Home Plunge, the world’s first cold plunge designed for your home bathtub. Drawing inspiration from Steve Jobs and his own experience bridging product design with human connection, Christopher shares how to sell without being pushy, pitchy, or fake. Ins...

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