# The Epstein Story Takes a New Turn w/Joyce Vance & Katie Phang

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Podcast: [The Mary Trump Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-mary-trump-podcast-7148777)
Published: 2026-07-22T19:00:38+00:00
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## Resource

Mary Trump, Joyce Vance, and Katie Phang examine the latest development in the Epstein story, the resulting turmoil inside the Republican Party, renewed questions surrounding Mitch McConnell, and the growing strain on MAGA’s political messaging. Joining us today is Katie Phang, an attorney, legal analyst, and former MSNBC host known for her sharp coverage of law, politics, and democracy issues. Katie is the creator of the Substack and podcast “Law and Disorder,” where she breaks down the legal and political stories shaping the country right now. Substack: Katie Phang’s “Law and Disorder” Also joining us is Joyce Vance, the former U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama and a longtime MSNBC legal analyst. In addition to her Substack “Civil Discourse,” Joyce is also a co-host of the popular legal and political podcast “#SistersInLaw,” alongside Barb McQuade, Kimberly Atkins Stohr, and Jill Wine-Banks. Substack: https://joycevance.substack.com/ #SistersInLaw Podcast: https://politicon.com/podcast-category/sisters-in-law/ Please send comments/questions contact@marytrump-media.com Consider visiting MaryTrump.org   and subscribing to my Substack: The Good in Us Mary Trump Media Store https://shop.marytrumpmedia.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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