# Mary Joins Ruth Ben-Ghiat to Discuss Donald’s Grandiose Obsession

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Podcast: [The Mary Trump Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-mary-trump-podcast-7148777)
Published: 2026-06-19T18:50:53+00:00
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## Resource

Mary Trump joins Ruth Ben-Ghiat in exposing the psychological forces driving Donald Trump’s obsession with power, wealth, corruption, and spectacle while warning why his behavior is becoming more dangerous. Historian Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a scholar of authoritarianism, fascism, propaganda, and threats to democracy. She is a professor at New York University and the author of Strongmen: Mussolini to the Present . You can find more of her writing at https://lucid.substack.com/ Please send comments/questions contact@marytrump-media.com Consider visiting MaryTrump.org   and subscribing to my Substack: The Good in Us Mary Trump Media Store https://shop.marytrumpmedia.com/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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