# Emily Perkins and Sue McCauley - Turning Points

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Podcast: [The Marlborough Book Festival](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-marlborough-book-festival-6717437)
Published: 2026-05-05T09:23:15+00:00
Episode link: https://marlboroughbookfestival.podbean.com/e/turning-points-emily-perkins-and-sue-mccauley/
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## Resource

Emily Perkins and Sue McCauley in conversation with Jane Forrest Waghorn What would Briar Howland and Therese Thorne talk about if they shared a table in a Wellington cafe? The protagonists of Sue McCauley and Emily Perkins’ latest books have little in common on the surface, but both are tired of being manipulated and shoehorned into roles. Both are seeking freedom and belonging around genuine people. They are making decisions about how to go forward in their lives and relationships, choosing what to keep and what to let go. Sue and Emily talk with Jane about challenges, choices and consequences facing the two characters and, by extension, many other women of a certain age in contemporary New Zealand. This session was recorded during the 2024 Marlborough Book Festival.

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