# 060326 ~ Pain as a Gift of the Moment - Frank Rubino

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Podcast: [The Lucy Ann Lance Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lucy-ann-lance-show-6923565)
Published: 2026-06-03T14:32:10+00:00
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June 3, 2026 ~ Lucy Ann Lance is joined by Psychotherapist Frank Rubino for this week's On The Couch! Frank explains that pain forces us to live in the present moment, unlike worry about the future or past regrets. He shares an anecdote about a patient with psychosis who found pain helpful for staying grounded in reality. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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