# When Washington Smells Weakness

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Podcast: [The Long Game with Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-long-game-with-jake-sullivan-and-jon-finer-7566719)
Published: 2025-11-21T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer cover: - Who gained what after Trump’s meeting with Saudi Crown Prince MBS? - How does the corruption scandal inside Zelensky’s government intersects with a new U.S. push for a Ukraine peace deal? - Tabletop: the risks of re-orienting the national-security apparatus to immigration enforcement. Follow The Long Game so you never miss an episode. New episodes drop on Fridays. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available here. References and Supplemental Readings: - “Disrupting the first reported AI-orchestrated cyber espionage campaign” Anthropic Report, 11/13/25. - “The Risky Movement to Make America Nuclear Again,” Michael Riley in Bloomberg News, 10/30/25. Watch the video of this episode on Youtube. Have a question for Jake or Jon? Email us at letters@cafe.com or leave us a comment on Substack. The Long Game is produced by the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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