# Occupation by Joystick: Venezuela

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Podcast: [The Long Game with Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-long-game-with-jake-sullivan-and-jon-finer-7566719)
Published: 2026-01-09T08:55:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer discuss the U.S. special operations raid that captured Nicolás Maduro and the Trump administration’s claim that the U.S. will now “run” Venezuela. Drawing on their experience in the White House, they assess the operational risks of the capture, unclear end state, and the limits of the promised economic upside. The conversation widens to Greenland and what the administration’s refusal to rule out force could mean for U.S. power and global stability. Follow The Long Game so you never miss an episode. New episodes drop on Fridays. Show notes and a transcript of the episode are available here. Watch the video of this episode on Youtube. Join us on Substack. Email Jake and Jon with your thoughts and questions at longgame@voxmedia.com. Or leave a comment below. The Long Game is produced by the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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