# The Ground Ft. Jessica Johnson Ep. 117

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Podcast: [The Line](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-line-6729441)
Published: 2026-01-12T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

The Ground is the second episode in our four-part series with Better In Our Back Yard , as we continue reflecting on 250 years of building in the United States of America during the opening weeks of January 2026. In this episode, Jessica Johnson , Vice President of Talon Metals Corp. , walks through an important distinction—preservation versus conservation—and why that difference matters. She speaks honestly about the reality that simply by living and breathing, we are using the ground every single day. Everything we rely on is either mined from the ground or grown from it. If it’s not mined, it’s grown. Jessica explains, with clarity and conviction, why conservation—not avoidance—is the responsible path forward. She shares thoughtful insight into who we are as people and how we canuse the resources we’ve been entrusted with efficiently, responsibly, and respectfully—so that this ground can continue to sustain life not just today, but for generations to come. The Ground drops Monday, January 12, 2026. If these conversations resonate, we invite you to follow along—and stand alongside other like-minded men, women, and organizations committed to ensuring the ground beneath our feet is better in our backyard. -------------------------- WHERE TO WATCH: Spotify ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/07rT0hFAsPAZYCUF4OMBB7⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Apple ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-line/id1722664848⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ------------------------- FOLLOW JOSH: X: https://x.com/Joshuadmellott⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/Joshuadmellott LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-d-mellott-0b0525118/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@UCC11qG6HXWP7TmVMr_Sv7Vg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------- FOLLOW BLACK…

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