# Episode 176: How Welsh Rugby Made the Stormers' Scrum So Dominant | Brok Harris & Sazi Sandi

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Podcast: [The Lekker Rugby Pod!](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lekker-rugby-pod-6941520)
Published: 2026-05-14T15:15:01+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3011

## Resource

Brok Harris spent years scrumming in Wales. What he learnt there is why the Stormers generated 58 scrum penalties this season. On this episode, scrum coach Brok Harris and tight-head Sazi Sandi break down how the gap between Welsh and South African scrum philosophy shaped the most dominant set piece in the URC. The timings are different. The mindset is different. The risk appetite is completely different. Brok had to figure that out the hard way when he crossed hemispheres. Now he coaches it. Sazi executes it.From Sazi's journey through Grahamstown and St Andrews College to his 50th cap, to Brok's years in Wales before coming home to coach, this is an inside look at the culture and thinking behind a penalty machine.On this episode of The Lekker Rugby Pod, MW Welman and Harry Jones sit down with Brok Harris, DHL Stormers scrum coach, and Sazi Sandi, Stormers tight-head and 50-cap Springbok, ahead of a crucial URC quarter-final positioning game in Cardiff.

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