# Episode 168: Why SA Rugby and Scotland Are Made For Each Other | Jamie Lyle

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Podcast: [The Lekker Rugby Pod!](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lekker-rugby-pod-6941520)
Published: 2026-04-27T14:27:35+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2287

## Resource

SA rugby and Scottish rugby have been quietly in love with each other for years. This episode is the proof.Jamie Lyle grew up in rural Scotland, 20 houses, one black classmate across six years of school, and a satellite dish that showed him Super Rugby. He went to South Africa for his 30th birthday and came home different. Not because of Table Mountain or the Garden Route, though both surpassed every expectation. Because of what the trip forced him to see about himself. In this conversation with Harry Jones, Jamie opens up about confronting subconscious biases he did not know he had, what Trevor Noah's book unlocked in him, and how the experience changed the language he uses on air. Not only that. His voice ended up on Chasing the Sun 2. He spent a night with the Romania team in Bordeaux. And he tells the story of how Pierre Schoeman answered his very first media question.On this episode of The Lekker Rugby Pod, Harry Jones sits down with Scottish rugby commentator Jamie Lyle, only on Megafoon Rugby.

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