# EP 69: Why You Over-Function (and How to Stop) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/ep-69-why-you-over-function-and-how-to-stop Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/ep-69-why-you-over-function-and-how-to-stop.md Podcast: [The Leading Below the Surface Podcast with LaTonya Wilkins](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259) Published: 2026-06-17T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/leadingbelowthesurface/episodes/EP-69-Why-You-Over-Function-and-How-to-Stop-e3ktj4q Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/e4da3074/podcast/play/121604698/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-5-17%2F426310577-44100-2-ba280d5c3358f.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/episodes/ep-69-why-you-over-function-and-how-to-stop Duration seconds: 2847 ## Resource What if healing your inner child could unlock the wisdom of your ancestors? In this episode of Leading Below the Surface, LaTonya Wilkins sits down with Tamala Floyd, Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Psychotherapist, and the first Black IFS lead trainer for a raw and revelatory conversation about Internal Family Systems (IFS), ancestral trauma, and what it really takes to heal below the surface. From navigating white-dominated spaces to transforming inherited rage, Tamala shares how IFS can reach the communities that need it most and how you can start your own healing journey without ever stepping into a therapy office. πŸŽ₯ Prefer to watch? This episode is also available on YouTube with chapters: https://www.youtube.com/@changecoaches/podcasts Episode Chapters [00:00] Welcome & introducing Tamala Floyd LaTonya shares how she discovered Tamala's book through a previous guest Why she's fangirling β€” and what makes this conversation different [03:15] Being the first Black IFS lead trainer How Tamala came to IFS through The Body Keeps the Score What it means to be a gatekeeper β€” and why representation in leadership matters [07:30] Bringing IFS into Black and marginalized communities Why language and framing matter when working across cultures The "storyteller part" β€” and why Tamala pushed back on the traditional IFS approach [11:00] What IFS actually is β€” and why it's not a fad Parts, protectors, and getting to the root of trauma (not just managing it) [15:00] LaTonya's personal IFS session & the ten-year-old within A vulnerable share about divorce, displacement, and emotional catharsis What it felt like to finally talk to her younger self [18:00] Tamala's ten-year-old β€” abandonment, rejection, and healing How Tamala's own wound shaped her people-pleasing an… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/episodes/ep-69-why-you-over-function-and-how-to-stop/transcription-requests` β€” Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leading-below-the-surface-podcast-with-latonya-wilkins-6464259/ep-69-why-you-over-function-and-how-to-stop.md` β€” Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.