# Ep. 22: A refugee can be anything, with Chantale Zuzi

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Podcast: [The Leadership Dance](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leadership-dance-7102140)
Published: 2025-07-21T19:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this powerful episode, Alissa Hsu Lynch speaks with Chantale Zuzi, a remarkable young leader whose journey from a small village in the Democratic Republic of the Congo to the halls of Wellesley College is nothing short of extraordinary. After surviving the personal tragedy of losing her parents in a village massacre, Chantale became a refugee at age 13—fleeing to Uganda with her siblings and stepping into the role of caregiver and advocate. Born with albinism, Chantale also faced constant discrimination and danger, navigating life with limited vision and extraordinary courage. Now the founder and executive director of Refugee Can Be, she shares how she turned unimaginable hardship into a mission to uplift refugee girls through education, safety, and support. Her story is one of resilience, leadership, and the power of purpose. Don't miss hearing from this inspiring young changemaker! 💡Key Takeaways: Strength is forged in adversity; leadership can emerge from even the most challenging circumstances. Advocacy begins with empathy: personal hardship can become a source of courage and purpose. The power of hope and dreams can sustain you through the darkest times and inspire change for others. Connect with Chantale: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chantale-zuzi-343186216/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chantalzuzi/ Website: https://www.refugeecanbe.org/ TED Talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akNqFXCVPwU ______________________________________________ ✅ Sign up for the newsletter: https://theleadershipdance.substack.com/s/the-leadership-dance 👉Listen and follow: https://linktr.ee/theleadershipdance

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