# The Challenge Of Leading Today's Church (with Landon McDonald)

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Podcast: [The Leader’s Cut with Preston Morrison](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-leader-s-cut-with-preston-morrison-6305620)
Published: 2026-03-05T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://theleaderscut.podbean.com/e/stewarding-the-church-of-today-with-landon-mcdonald/
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"Sometimes we have to get stronger by getting a little bit smaller." In this episode of The Leader’s Cut, Preston Morrison sits down with Landon McDonald, Senior Pastor of Mission Church in Gilbert, AZ, for a high-level conversation on The Church of today. They breakdown the protocols of spiritual authority, the necessity of the "secret place," the dangerous rise of performative Christianity, and balancing "Word and Spirit" in a way that carries real weight. Together, they explore why the next generation is rejecting "BS Christianity" and instead chasing a root system that can survive any drought. This conversation covers: The Disease of Performance: Why "performed spirituality" before inward spirituality is the greatest threat to modern leadership. The Field of Anonymity: The vital importance of being "impossible to find" in the secret place before you are ever asked to stand on a “stage.” It's God-Breathed: Reclaiming a deep, visceral respect for the Theopneustos nature of the Word. A Mandate for the Word: How to teach from a place of spiritual reservoir. The "No BS" Generation: Why today’s youth are looking for orthodox truth over reckless verbiage.

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