# Lawfare Daily: How To Make a Patriot, with Fabian Hoffman

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Published: 2026-07-21T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

On today’s episode, Lawfare ’s Ukraine Fellow Anastasiia Lapatina talks to Fabian Hoffman, a senior research fellow at the Programme for Ukraine and Full-Spectrum Threats at the Norwegian Institute for Defence Studies, about what it would take for Ukraine to produce Patriot interceptor missiles, if the United States had given it the license to do so. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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