# Lawfare Archive: Kevin Xu on the State of the AI Arms Race Between the U.S. and China

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Published: 2026-06-21T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

From December 9, 2024: Kevin Xu, founder of Interconnected Capital and author of the Interconnected newsletter , joins Kevin Frazier, Senior Research Fellow in the Constitutional Studies Program at the University of Texas at Austin and a Tarbell Fellow at Lawfare , to analyze China’s AI ambitions, its current AI capacities, and the likely effect of updated export controls on the nation’s AI efforts. The two pay particular attention to the different AI development strategies being deployed by the U.S. and China and how those differences reflect the AI priorities of the respective nations. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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