# Lawfare Archive: David Clements, the Evangelist of Election Refusal, with Anna Bower and Ben Wittes

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Published: 2026-06-13T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

From November 1, 2024: Lawfare Senior Editor Anna Bower and Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes sit down with Senior Editor Roger Parloff to discuss David Clements, who has led religiously inspired "trainings" across the U.S. teaching citizens how to stop local election officials from certifying elections the trainees consider fraudulent. Anna describes a training she attended, and Ben discusses, and plays clips from, his two-hour interview with Clements.  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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