# Scaling Laws: Google's Kent Walker on Regulating Frontier AI Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/scaling-laws-google-s-kent-walker-on-regulating-frontier-ai Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/scaling-laws-google-s-kent-walker-on-regulating-frontier-ai.md Podcast: [The Lawfare Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-745203) Published: 2026-07-31T09:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/lawfare/episodes/scaling-laws-googles-kent-walker-on-regulating-frontier-ai Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/e/6a6a29762a5f0f3072ff8224/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/episodes/scaling-laws-google-s-kent-walker-on-regulating-frontier-ai Duration seconds: 1650 ## Resource Kent Walker, President of Global Affairs at Google and Alphabet, joins Kevin Frazier to discuss Google's proposal for a two-pronged approach to AI governance: a Frontier AI Regulatory Organization, which like FINRA, would operate as an independent, industry-based governance body overseen by a federal agency and the application of existing laws to widely-deployed, less capable systems. The two also discuss the timing behind this proposal and its relevance in light of the recent Hugging Face / OpenAI incident. Follow Kent: @kent_walker Find Scaling Laws on the Lawfare website , and subscribe to never miss an episode. To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at www.patreon.com/lawfare . You can also support Lawfare by making a one-time donation at https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute . Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/episodes/scaling-laws-google-s-kent-walker-on-regulating-frontier-ai/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/scaling-laws-google-s-kent-walker-on-regulating-frontier-ai.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.