# Lawfare Archive: Klein and Cordero on the Latest FISA Numbers Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/lawfare-archive-klein-and-cordero-on-the-latest-fisa-numbers Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/lawfare-archive-klein-and-cordero-on-the-latest-fisa-numbers.md Podcast: [The Lawfare Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-745203) Published: 2026-06-19T09:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/lawfare/episodes/lawfare-archive-klein-and-cordero-on-the-latest-fisa-number Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/60518a52f69aa815d2dba41c/e/6a3445b44a2a3be0f4d45948/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/episodes/lawfare-archive-klein-and-cordero-on-the-latest-fisa-numbers Duration seconds: 3217 ## Resource From May 31, 2022: A few weeks ago, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released the latest FISA transparency data . It was notable in at least two major respects: the continued decline of traditional Title I FISA applications—that is, warrants for individual surveillance—and separately, the rather large number of U.S. persons who had been searched under so-called 702 surveillance. To discuss the news, the data and what it all means, Benjamin Wittes sat down on Lawfare Live with Carrie Cordero of the Center for a New American Security and Adam Klein of the Strauss Center at the University of Texas. They talked about the 702 number. Is it really big, or does it just seem big? They talked about what's causing the decline in traditional FISA, about whether reforms in the wake of the Carter Page debacle have gone too far, and they talked about where it is all going from here. To receive ad-free podcasts, become a Lawfare Material Supporter at www.patreon.com/lawfare . You can also support Lawfare by making a one-time donation at https://givebutter.com/lawfare-institute . Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare . Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/episodes/lawfare-archive-klein-and-cordero-on-the-latest-fisa-numbers/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-lawfare-podcast-745203/lawfare-archive-klein-and-cordero-on-the-latest-fisa-numbers.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.