# Episode 3: Designing What Comes Next

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Podcast: [The Knowing Moments](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-knowing-moments-7732605)
Published: 2026-04-02T15:03:00+00:00
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## Resource

After 28 years at Microsoft, Joy Chik faces a question most leaders eventually encounter: what comes next? In this episode, Joy reflects on the final stage of her sabbatical — exploring the startup and venture ecosystem, rediscovering the energy of experimentation, and confronting the emotional weight of leaving a place that has shaped her identity for decades. It’s a story about risk, belonging, and intentionally designing the next chapter. Because sometimes the hardest decisions aren’t between good and bad — but between what has been home and what is calling you forward. For email updates signup here . For video episodes, visit our podcast on YouTube or Spotify . Follow us on LinkedIn , Instagram , and Facebook . Send your feedback and suggestions for future episodes to feedback@theknowingmoments.com Logo and other art courtesy of Andy Reddout

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