# 91. Marcia Drut-Davis on Being Unapologetically Childfree Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree.md Podcast: [The Kids or Childfree Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428) Published: 2026-01-21T19:57:00+00:00 Episode link: https://81cffad0-1139-4cb7-be39-26dc670a9d20.libsyn.com/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/81cffad0-1139-4cb7-be39-26dc670a9d20/KM_-_EP_91_-_Podcast_Audio.mp3?dest-id=4261233 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/episodes/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree Duration seconds: 3169 ## Resource Keltie is speaking with childfree trailblazer, Marcia Drut-Davis, about the ups and downs of her life without children. They discuss... Marcia's public "coming out" of her childfree choice on the national TV show "60 Minutes" in 1974 — and the backlash that came with it. The stigma surrounding the childfree choice and the emotional toll it can take on those who choose it. Marcia's friendships with moms — and what has been key to these relationships surviving the different seasons of parenthood. The importance of young people in her life — and how you can cultivate intergenerational relationships. The profound beauty that can be found in life's simple, and seemingly insignificant moments, and how these can be a source of immense joy. Live as an 83-year-old childfree woman ____ (1:58) Meet Marcia and her Kids or Childfree decision (9:06) Announcing her childfree decision on "60 Minutes" (16:56) Tips for telling family & friends that you're not having kids (25:25) Community across generations (39:04) Being childfree in your 80s (46:15) Advice for people on the fence ____ MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Marcia's Instagram ▸ https://www.instagram.com/childfree_guru/ Read Marcia's two books: Confessions of a Childfree Woman ▸ https://bookshop.org/p/books/confessions-of-a-childfree-woman-a-life-spent-swimming-against-the-mainstream-marcia-drut-davis/adbfbde18db5546e?ean=9780615819235&next=t What?! You Don't Want Children? ▸ https://bookshop.org/p/books/what-you-don-t-want-children-understanding-rejection-in-the-childfree-lifestyle-marcia-drut-davis/99ca98586b6991e2?ean=9781646693504&next=t ____ ABOUT MARCIA Marcia Drut-Davis is an American author, speaker, and longtime pioneer of the childfree-by-choice movement who first gained national attention in 1974 when she publicly… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/episodes/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-kids-or-childfree-podcast-6725428/91-marcia-drut-davis-on-being-unapologetically-childfree.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.