# Stop Calling the Cavs Soft! They Earned the Right to Drop That Label

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Podcast: [The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ken-carman-show-with-anthony-lima-1099928)
Published: 2026-05-12T13:41:57+00:00
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Duration seconds: 930

## Resource

Ken and Lima dig into the lingering "soft" narrative surrounding the Cavs after Game 4, with Ken arguing passionately that the label has become a lazy catch-all that fans and media reach for whenever Cleveland loses regardless of the actual circumstances. The conversation is sparked by Jeff Teague's take that the Cavs should have traded Evan Mobley and every pick they own for Giannis, which Ken pushes back on hard, saying Mobley's dominant defensive performances should make everyone pump the brakes on that conversation before the postseason is even over. Ken and Lima both agree that Detroit's bigs look mentally broken right now while the Cavs have been the more physical team in both Cleveland games, which is the exact opposite of the soft label everyone has been pinning on them. The bottom line from Ken is simple: if you weren't excited by what Mitchell, Mobley, and Harden did in Game 4, this sport might just not be for you.

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