# PODCAST: The Knicks Won It All... Could the Cavs Be Next?

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Podcast: [The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ken-carman-show-with-anthony-lima-1099928)
Published: 2026-06-16T14:34:25+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1088

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Ken and Lima dig into the emerging podcast scene with a wide-ranging conversation about whether the Knicks' championship should change how Cleveland thinks about its own title ceiling, given that nobody believed New York had a real shot either. Ken challenges the lazy narrative shortcuts in sports media — "no dog in him," "can't win with this guy" — arguing that Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns just blew up most of those talking points in one playoff run. The De'Aaron Fox odds hitting the wire sparks a debate about whether any Cavs move short of LeBron or Giannis will actually excite the fan base, with Ken concluding Cleveland is stuck in that frustrating Kings-Blazers purgatory of being good but not taken seriously. Lima pushes back with the Knicks as Exhibit A that running it back with the right chemistry can surprise everyone, leaving both hosts genuinely uncertain whether the Cavs need a blockbuster or just some good fortune.

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