# Ken Draws the Line: Cavs Can Beat Anyone but the Knicks, Thunder and Spurs

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Podcast: [The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ken-carman-show-with-anthony-lima-1099928)
Published: 2026-06-24T13:54:22+00:00
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Duration seconds: 471

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Ken argues the Cavs front office quietly accepted at the trade deadline that the Eastern Conference Finals was this year's realistic ceiling, once Rich Paul effectively forced the Darius Garland for James Harden trade and left no time to build chemistry. He pushes back hard on fans wanting a "punitive" shakeup just to feel something, insisting a Jaylen Brown deal would only stack the backcourt, age the roster, and shrink the championship window without fixing anything real. Ken draws his line in the sand: as built, this team can't beat the Knicks, Thunder, or Spurs, but it can beat everyone else in the East, so patience matters more than a splashy move for its own sake. He closes the show thanking Brian Geltzeiler, Mike Florio, and Danny Cunningham for a packed morning of Sorsby and Cavs debate.

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