# Hour 4: Joel Bitonio's Hall of Fame Outlook Amid Browns' Struggles

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Podcast: [The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ken-carman-show-with-anthony-lima-1099928)
Published: 2026-06-11T13:58:21+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2220

## Resource

Ken and Anthony analyze Joel Bitonio's Hall of Fame prospects and how the Cleveland Browns' lack of success has hindered his legacy. They also delve into Deshaun Watson's first media appearance in 20 months and explore the narrative surrounding Taylor Swift's loyalty to the New York Knicks. 01:51 - Bitonio's Hall of Fame Case 04:59 - Browns' Losing Culture Consequences 08:22 - Deshaun Watson Media Silence 12:44 - Should Deshaun Watson Apologize? 18:37 - Andrew Berry vs Paul DePodesta 23:21 - Berry's Roster Building Strategy 34:00 - Taylor Swift's Knicks Fandom

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