# Hour 4: Jason Lloyd Breaks Down the Cavs' Fourth Quarter Collapse against Knicks

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Podcast: [The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ken-carman-show-with-anthony-lima-1099928)
Published: 2026-05-20T13:59:13+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2334

## Resource

Jason Lloyd from The Athletic joins Lima and Tone to analyze the Cavaliers' fourth-quarter collapse against the Knicks and Kenny Atkinson's refusal to use timeouts. They examine how James Harden and Donovan Mitchell struggled with fatigue down the stretch and compare this devastating loss to historic Cleveland sports moments. 01:50 - Jason Lloyd Interview 04:56 - Atkinson Timeout Management 09:03 - Harden Matchup Concerns 12:54 - Resiliency and Toughness 18:48 - 2018 Finals Comparison 22:47 - Cavaliers Tension in Studio 27:49 - Cleveland Sports Heartbreak 36:45 - Tim Richards Bedtime Blunder 40:50 - Insurmountable Lead Debate

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