# Hour 4: Anthony Lima and Brian Geltzeiler Clash Over James Harden

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Podcast: [The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ken-carman-show-with-anthony-lima-1099928)
Published: 2026-06-24T13:58:29+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2253

## Resource

Ken Carman and Anthony Lima debate the possibility of the Cavaliers trading Evan Mobley for Jaylen Brown following reports of interest from the Celtics. An interview with Brian Geltzeiler turns sour when he and Lima get into a fiery disagreement regarding James Harden's impact on the court. They wrap up by analyzing recent draft picks and the internal expectations for the Cavaliers organization. 01:55 - Cavs Trade Rumors 06:15 - Mobley Vs. Jaylen Brown 09:50 - Jared Allen and Callers 16:35 - Brian Geltzeiler Interview 21:25 - Geltzeiler and Lima Argument 27:15 - Interview Reaction Debrief 32:20 - NBA Draft Prospects 37:25 - Building Cavs Identity

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