# Hour 2: Zac Jackson: Myles Garrett Would Still Be a Brown Under Jim Schwartz

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Podcast: [The Ken Carman Show with Anthony Lima](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-ken-carman-show-with-anthony-lima-1099928)
Published: 2026-06-03T14:27:59+00:00
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Ken Carman and Anthony Lima analyze the fallout from the Cleveland Browns trading Myles Garrett to the Rams for Jared Verse and future draft picks. Guest Zach Jackson joins to discuss the management of the roster under Andrew Berry and reveals that Garrett might still be in Cleveland if Jim Schwartz had become head coach. They also evaluate the future of the quarterback position and the potential for upcoming trades involving Denzel Ward. 02:23 - Schwartz and Monken Dynamics 06:54 - Arch Manning Draft Scenarios 11:09 - Fan Frustration and Accountability 16:39 - Zach Jackson Joins Show 22:53 - The Schwartz-Garrett Revelation 31:11 - Brendan Sorsby Supplemental Draft 35:24 - Garrett vs Kevin Stefanski 40:12 - Denzel Ward Future Trade

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