# #389 Larry McDonald: A Market 'Rotten to the Core,' Gold to $6,500, and The Coming Credit Crisis Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803/389-larry-mcdonald-a-market-rotten-to-the-core-gold-to-6-500-and-the-coming-credit-crisis Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803/389-larry-mcdonald-a-market-rotten-to-the-core-gold-to-6-500-and-the-coming-credit-crisis.md Podcast: [The Julia La Roche Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803) Published: 2026-07-14T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/julia-la-roche/episodes/389-Larry-McDonald-A-Market-Rotten-to-the-Core--Gold-to-6-500--and-The-Coming-Credit-Crisis-e3m1sjm Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/APO6153481280.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803/episodes/389-larry-mcdonald-a-market-rotten-to-the-core-gold-to-6-500-and-the-coming-credit-crisis Duration seconds: 2795 ## Resource New York Times’ bestselling author Larry McDonald, founder of The Bear Traps Report, returns to The Julia La Roche Show to lay out why he believes markets are entering a major regime shift. He points to a historic rotation out of mega-cap tech — roughly $2 trillion has already exited the "Mag 7" since October — as sophisticated institutional investors grow wary of unsustainable AI/data-center capital expenditures and the off-balance-sheet financing propping them up. McDonald warns of a coming credit crisis driven by private credit weakness and commercial real estate stress, while arguing that Washington's stablecoin push and "financial repression" tactics are being used to force more Treasury buying and inflate away the $39 trillion national debt. With sticky inflation, midterm election risk, and a volatile August-September seasonal pattern ahead, he's positioning in hard assets — gold (targeting $6,500), silver, natural gas, and select energy names — as the trade of the next several years, while sounding the alarm on an S&P 500 he calls dangerously concentrated in tech. Thank you to our sponsors: Kalshi - download the Kalshi app and use code JULIA to get $10 when you trade $10. http://kalshi.com/r/JULIA Monetary Metals - learn more at https://www.monetary-metals.com/julia/ Links: How To Listen When Markets Speak: https://www.amazon.com/Listen-When-Markets-Speak-Opportunities-ebook/dp/B0C4DFVFNR Colossal Failure of Common Sense: https://www.amazon.com/Colossal-Failure-Common-Sense-Collapse/dp/B002IFLWMK Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/Convertbond Bear Traps Report: https://www.thebeartrapsreport.com/ 00:00 – Intro & welcome back 01:11 – Big picture macro setup: bullish-to-bearish rotation among top institutional investors 02:19 – "Under… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803/episodes/389-larry-mcdonald-a-market-rotten-to-the-core-gold-to-6-500-and-the-coming-credit-crisis/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-julia-la-roche-show-5842803/389-larry-mcdonald-a-market-rotten-to-the-core-gold-to-6-500-and-the-coming-credit-crisis.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.