# When Healing Gets Messy, Real, and Transformational

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Podcast: [The Journey of an Awakening Spirit - Conversations That Heal The Silence Within](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-journey-of-an-awakening-spirit-conversations-that-heal-the-silence-within-6420776)
Published: 2025-12-16T21:00:00+00:00
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Send us Fan Mail This episode explores the kind of spiritual awakening that doesn’t come through peace or perfection, but through collapse, grief, and deep inner reckoning. Kathleen Flanagan and Birgitta Visser share raw, lived experiences of healing after abuse, loss, and trauma, revealing what happens when survival mode can no longer hold. Through honest conversation, they discuss nervous system healing, forgiveness, sacred plant medicine, energetic alignment, and the return to inner safety...

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