# Inside a Debate at OpenAI Over Mass Shootings

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Podcast: [The Journal.](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-journal-547598)
Published: 2026-06-26T20:21:00+00:00
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## Resource

This past summer, employees at OpenAI had a meeting. On the table were about 10 cases where users discussed violence. Months later, one of those users committed one of the deadliest mass shootings in Canadian history. Sam Altman wrote an apology letter to the devastated town of Tumbler Ridge. WSJ’s Georgia Wells reports on why OpenAI resisted internal calls to alert law enforcement. Ryan Knutson hosts. Further Listening: - A Troubled Man and His Chatbot - Artificial: The OpenAI Story Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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