# 1340: ZYNs | Skeptical Sunday

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Published: 2026-06-07T07:00:00+00:00
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Are ZYNs gas-station Ozempic or a dopamine loan shark? Nick Pell digs into the nicotine pouch boom this Skeptical Sunday — and the verdict is messy. Welcome to Skeptical Sunday, a special edition of The Jordan Harbinger Show where Jordan and a guest break down a topic that you may have never thought about, open things up, and debunk common misconceptions. This time around, we’re joined by writer and researcher Nick Pell ! Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1340 On This Week's Skeptical Sunday: ZYNs are a tobacco-free nicotine pouch born from Swedish "snus." Swedish Match engineers extracted nicotine salts and loaded them into food-grade fillers, creating a shelf-stable white pouch that doesn't stain teeth or require spitting. Philip Morris bought the company for $16 billion in 2022. The harm-reduction case is strong, but "less harmful" isn't "harmless." ZYNs skip the carbon monoxide, tar, and lung damage of cigarettes, and carry roughly 90 — 99% lower carcinogens. But they still raise heart rate and blood pressure, can cause gum recession, disrupt sleep, and remain wildly addictive. The user base skews young, male, and white. Men are 88% of the market, and the 19-30 bracket is fastest-growing, with use doubling in 2024-2025. Adoption is concentrated in white, high-income, urban circles like tech, law, and finance where smoking is socially radioactive. Nicotine has real cognitive perks — with a catch. A meta-analysis of 41 studies found genuine gains in alertness, reaction time, and focus, plus appetite suppression ("gas station Ozempic"). The catch: for addicts, these benefits mostly just return you to baseline rather than lifting you above it. If you already smoke, switching is a genuine win you can act on today. For a smoker, trading…

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