# Fatima Priests Gruner and Kramer: Benedict’s Resignation Invalid - Francis was NOT Pope

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Podcast: [The John-Henry Westen Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-john-henry-westen-show-1180464)
Published: 2026-04-29T00:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/the-john-henry-westen-show/episodes/fatima-priests-gruner-and-kramer-benedicts-resignation-inval
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Duration seconds: 2712

## Resource

John-Henry Westen speaks with Paul Kramer about the controversy surrounding the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and whether it met the requirements of canon law. The discussion centers on the distinction between munus (office) and ministerium (ministry), and how that difference could affect the legitimacy of later papal claims. The conversation explores broader theological questions about papal authority, heresy, and continuity in Church leadership. Implications for the pontificates of Pope Francis and Pope Leo XIV are also examined, underscoring ongoing debates within Catholic circles over authority, clarity, and fidelity to tradition. HELP SUPPORT WORK LIKE THIS: https://give.lifesitenews.com/?utm_source=SOCIAL U.S. residents! Create a will with LifeSiteNews: https://www.mylegacywill.com/lifesitenews   **** PROTECT Your Wealth with gold, silver, and precious metals: https://sjp.stjosephpartners.com/lifesitenews +++ SHOP ALL YOUR FUN AND FAVORITE LIFESITE MERCH! https://shop.lifesitenews.com/     +++ Connect with John-Henry Westen and all of LifeSiteNews on social media: LifeSite: https://linktr.ee/lifesitenews John-Henry Westen: https://linktr.ee/jhwesten Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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