# Pags “Drops Out” of 2028, Swatting Terror Returns + Dershowitz on Epstein - May 28 Hr 2

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Podcast: [The Joe Pags Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-joe-pags-show-4835546)
Published: 2026-05-29T01:27:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 2660

## Resource

Pags jokes that he is officially NOT running for president in 2028 — and uses the moment to call out politicians constantly making headlines by announcing campaigns they aren’t even in. Then, another swatting incident hits a Supreme Court justice’s home, and Pags opens up about his own family being targeted during the wave of swattings against conservatives last year. Plus, the DOJ opens a criminal probe tied to testimony in the E. Jean Carroll case involving President Trump. Then, famed attorney Alan Dershowitz joins for Part 1 of a massive conversation on the Epstein files, Ghislaine Maxwell, why Trump alerted authorities about Epstein years ago, CNN’s treatment of Dershowitz, and whether a third Trump term is even constitutionally possible. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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