# China’s REAL Role in Hormuz, Reporter Clash in Beijing + Lily Tang Williams Warns America - May 14 Hr 2

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Podcast: [The Joe Pags Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-joe-pags-show-4835546)
Published: 2026-05-15T01:35:00+00:00
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## Resource

Pags breaks down what the media isn’t telling you about China’s involvement in the Strait of Hormuz and why the Trump-Xi summit matters far beyond trade. He also reacts to reports of a confrontation between American reporters and Chinese police during the trip, raising more concerns about press freedom and China’s control. Then, Lily Tang Williams — who escaped Communist China and is now running for Congress in New Hampshire — joins to explain how difficult it is for Americans to truly understand Xi Jinping’s goals, why so many Chinese nationals entered the U.S. during the open border years, and the growing concerns about espionage and national security. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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