# Lauren Southern: I Helped Create the Manosphere — and It Nearly Destroyed Me | Ep. 14

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Podcast: [The Jeremy Boreing Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-jeremy-boreing-show-7771482)
Published: 2026-04-24T21:19:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 6452

## Resource

Jeremy sits down with Lauren Southern — the woman who went viral on feminism and immigration as an impressionable 19-year-old, got permanently pigeonholed as alt-right, lived the trad wife life she'd been preaching, watched her marriage fall apart on the internet, and is now trying to figure out what Christianity looks like when public Christianity is almost entirely performance. Jordan Peterson twice told Jeremy he should hire her, but that never happened before Jeremy departed the company. This is their first conversation. They get into the “redemption arc industrial complex” and the cinematic Culture War universe. Whether anyone can actually be a Christian online. Why Jeremy thinks uploading your soul to the cloud is a category error, and what a night at a bar at 3 a.m. really tells you about a person (and what it does not). The two right-wing media spheres — Prager and Peterson as the example on one side, Shaffer and Tate and Milo on the other — and the symbiosis between them. Why Lauren found Destiny more honest than the “trad” friends cheating on their wives while posting Christ Is King. How conservatism became so graceless there's no path back for anyone who fails the trad life. Chinese spies, Russian honeypots, and the economy of paid tweets nobody sees. And why Boromir is the best character in Lord of the Rings. 00:00 The Redemption Arc Industrial Complex 04:45 Two Small-Town Evangelical Kids Grow Up and Leave 13:50 How Audience Capture Got Lauren at 19 20:45 Can You Actually Be a Christian Online? 22:30 Uploaded to the Cloud — Why Souls Are Embodied 36:50 Two Right-Wing Medias (And Why Peterson Wanted Jeremy to Hire Lauren) 46:00 Why Destiny Was More Honest Than Her “Trad” Friends 51:20 Graceless Conservatism: No Path Back After Failing the Trad Life 54:55 Da…

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