# America First Means America First Place and Multipolarity is a Trap, with Peter Savodnik | Ep. 4

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Podcast: [The Jeremy Boreing Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-jeremy-boreing-show-7771482)
Published: 2026-03-31T22:33:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 4588

## Resource

As the War in Iran rages, prominent voices on the American left and the American right are calling for a new global order, one where America shares power and responsibility with countries like China and Russia. But is multipolarity a path to a safer, stronger America? And will the values of the multipolar world be Western values? Going from first place to a tie is called losing, and losing is exactly what the proponents of multipolarity really want for America. Peter Savodnik joins us to discuss what American Primacy has bought us these last eighty years, and what we stand to lose should it end. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction & Tucker Carlson Says America Should Share Power with China 02:38 Why Multipolarity Appeals to Both the Far Left and Reactionary Right 08:08 Donald Trump Believes America First Means America First Place 10:21 Iran’s Long War Against America 12:49 Trump’s Approach to Iran: Negotiation Backed by Strength 16:28 The Dangers of Multipolarity and Spheres of Influence 21:13 Guest Interview: Peter Savodnik on Pax Americana 24:11 What Has American Hegemony Bought Us 31:22 What a Multipolar World Would Actually Look Like 37:08 The Spiritual Malaise and What America Still Offers the World 45:15 China’s Vision vs. American Values 51:17 Is the War in Iran in America’s Interest? 57:02 The Normalization Bias and Iran’s Fanaticism 1:01:36 Civilizational Struggle and the Future of the West 1:04:02 The Podcast Wars and Divisions on the Right 1:07:16 Israel, Christian Worship & Optics in the Holy Land

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