# Why Your Tools Are Distracting You From (Actually) Growing — Kevin Lawrence

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Podcast: [The Jason Marc Campbell Business Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-jason-marc-campbell-business-podcast-352086)
Published: 2026-06-09T08:00:39+00:00
Episode link: https://www.sellingwithlove.com
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## Resource

When Jason's revenue dropped 25%, his first instinct was to blame the dashboard. Kevin Lawrence's response? "That's crap. Dashboards are a distraction. Give me a pencil and paper." In 60 seconds, he found the real problem. Jason Marc Campbell interviews Kevin Lawrence, bestselling author and growth advisor who has spent three decades helping CEOs scale from tens of millions to hundreds of millions. Kevin breaks down why fixing problems never grows a business, why most leaders are spending 60% of their time on the wrong things, and the four forces that determine whether your company flies or flatlines. ===== 👂Listen out for: Fixing problems fixes problems not growth Stop playing office and get in front of customers Your organization follows the courage of the CEO You only need two or three basic numbers Sales is just shoveling gravel — do more of it ===== ❤️ New to the Jason Marc Campbell Business Podcast? Discover the Book written by Jason, Selling With Love. http://jasonmarccampbell.com/book Subscribe to the YouTube Channel HERE: https://www.youtube.com/c/sellingwithlove ===== 📱I'd love to connect with you. You can find me, your host, Jason Marc Campbell on the following Channels: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonmarccampbell LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmarccampbell Note from Jason: This Podcast, as I have, has evolved. From Selling with Love Podcast and Superhumans at Work by Mindvalley. I remain curious and continue to grow into more topics that can support others on a journey for success and fulfilment. Enjoy ;-) #KevinLawrence #JasonMarcCampbell #SellingWithLove Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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