# John Kiriakou on God, Courage, and Becoming a Gen Z Icon: Espionage as a Spiritual Exercise

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Podcast: [The Jason Jones Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-jason-jones-show-743497)
Published: 2026-03-23T12:42:24+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, I speak with former CIA officer and whistleblower John Kiriakou about the moral and spiritual dimensions of espionage. We explore how life in the intelligence world can become a test of conscience, courage, and ultimately faith. Kiriakou reflects on his journey from CIA insider to citizen truth-teller—and why a new generation sees him as a symbol of integrity in an age of distrust.

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