# S2 Ep13: Shane Gillis in conversation | JDFMCP S2EP#13

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Podcast: [The James Donald Forbes McCann Catamaran Plan](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-james-donald-forbes-mccann-catamaran-plan-4556838)
Published: 2026-05-20T12:49:45+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3521

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