# Perfect Is Boring: Tyra Banks and Carolyn London [From the Archive]

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Podcast: [The James Altucher Show](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-james-altucher-show-745332)
Published: 2026-08-01T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://art19.com/shows/the-james-altucher-pod/episodes/c8b35255-99fa-4ab0-95b5-e5f4a246efae
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Episode Description: This From the Archive episode features Tyra Banks and her mother, Carolyn London, in a conversation about beauty, business, motherhood, reinvention, and the power of not trying to be perfect. There is no “A Note from James” section for this episode. James begins by explaining why America’s Next Top Model mattered to him as a father. He watched the show with his daughters, and what stood out was not just modeling or fashion. It was the way Tyra taught that success depended on personality, presence, charisma, preparation, and knowing how to use what made you different. Tyra and Carolyn discuss their book Perfect Is Boring , which grew out of the raw, funny, and sometimes embarrassing conversations Carolyn had with Tyra throughout her life. Carolyn did not want Tyra to enter adulthood ignorant, ashamed, or unprepared. That meant frank talks about sex, periods, modeling, business, self-worth, and how to handle a world that would constantly try to define her. A major theme of the conversation is preparation. When Tyra chose Paris Fashion Week over college, Carolyn told her that the choice was hers—but if she was going to model, she had to treat it like a business. She had to study designers the way she had studied for the SAT. She had to understand the industry, the clients, the aesthetics, and the opportunities before she got on the plane. That preparation became one of Tyra’s biggest advantages. She explains how she studied Chanel, Yves Saint Laurent, Dior, and other designers, adjusting her look and walk from audition to audition. She later used the same strategic mindset when high-fashion clients criticized her body and told her to lose weight. Instead of starving herself, she and Carolyn sat down over pizza and made a list of clients and models who…

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