# Law Professor On Why It's More Important Than Ever To Confront Racism with Susan Sturm - Episode 207

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Published: 2025-07-18T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Join host Kathryn Rubino on the Jabot Podcast as she sits down with Columbia Law School's Susan Sturm to discuss her compelling new book, "What Might Be." Susan shares her passion for social justice and explores the power of reimagining systems for a more equitable future. This episode is a must-listen for those eager to understand the paradoxes in social justice work and how to navigate them for impactful change. Highlights Seeds of the book from childhood experiences. Contradiction seen in the law from day one. Building environments for full participation. Academia as a path for social justice. The power of ideas in driving change. What law is according to Robert Cover. Imagining systems for social justice. Creating micro spaces of justice now. Three paradoxes in addressing racism. Navigating racial salience paradox. Building multiracial collaborations. The challenge and necessity of hope. Avoiding internal immigration. Episode Sponsored By https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus Links and Resources https://whatmightbe.me/ Subscribe, Share and Review To get the next episode subscribe with your favorite podcast player. Subscribe with Apple Podcasts Follow on Spotify Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

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