# When You Can't Trust the Face on the Call | A Brand Highlight Conversation with Kevin Surace, CEO of TokenCore Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/when-you-can-t-trust-the-face-on-the-call-a-brand-highlight-conversation-with-kevin-surace-ceo-of-tokencore Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/when-you-can-t-trust-the-face-on-the-call-a-brand-highlight-conversation-with-kevin-surace-ceo-of-tokencore.md Podcast: [The ITSPmagazine Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250) Published: 2026-06-24T12:11:30+00:00 Episode link: https://itspradio.com/episodes/when-you-cant-trust-the-face-on-the-call-a-brand-highlight-conversation-with-kevin-surace-ceo-of-tokencore-5b_9e9MO Audio file: https://chtbl.com/track/1CBDEF/afp-110348-injected.calisto.simplecastaudio.com/0310f993-fbb0-4fcc-b698-db9af99f73ca/episodes/a01c1df5-5f70-4bac-a019-6ee5a348f2bd/audio/128/default.mp3?aid=rss_feed&awCollectionId=0310f993-fbb0-4fcc-b698-db9af99f73ca&awEpisodeId=a01c1df5-5f70-4bac-a019-6ee5a348f2bd&feed=uHBB4m9X Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/episodes/when-you-can-t-trust-the-face-on-the-call-a-brand-highlight-conversation-with-kevin-surace-ceo-of-tokencore Duration seconds: 360 ## Resource Biometric-assured identity has moved from a fringe idea to the center of enterprise security, and the video call is now one of its biggest pressure points. Kevin Surace shares where TokenCore is headed, why banks are extending identity assurance to the customers who move money, and what security leaders should do before the next wave of announcements. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/episodes/when-you-can-t-trust-the-face-on-the-call-a-brand-highlight-conversation-with-kevin-surace-ceo-of-tokencore/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/the-itspmagazine-podcast-938250/when-you-can-t-trust-the-face-on-the-call-a-brand-highlight-conversation-with-kevin-surace-ceo-of-tokencore.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.